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gaully
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Arid or Not
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March 08, 2010, 05:04:55 PM »
Are Crassipes arid or rainforest T's
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Re: Arid or Not
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March 08, 2010, 06:11:29 PM »
Lots of 'rainforest' Ts have been found in arid habitats thats why we've moved away from calling them rainforest Ts.
Its just the old not-very-updated sites that still say phlogius sp. are rainforest.
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Re: Arid or Not
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March 09, 2010, 05:55:51 PM »
Yeah it's hard to define a T as a 'rainforest' or 'arid' tarantula as the definitions are not really correct, as some of the species we would call 'arid' actually live quite coastly, where it is hardly arid. A better term to use to define the groups are 'obligate' or 'oppurtunistic' burrowers, which refers to the methods in which they burrow and construct their hides.
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March 09, 2010, 08:20:04 PM »
thats a hard one too cause some opportunistic burrowers as we know them will infact dig their own burrow from scratch and some obligate spp. will infact utilise pre-existing structures for a burrow .
I call them in groups , Phlogius/Coremiocnemis (opportunistic , forested) and Selenotypus/Selenotholus (obligate , grassland/arid) respectively .
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March 10, 2010, 09:53:39 PM »
Yeah that's true aswell, always hard to define groups when there's always gonna be traits that overlap.
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Re: Arid or Not
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March 12, 2010, 04:16:32 PM »
Hey,
Crassipes have been renamed to Phlogius Sarina or Eunice due to species growing larger and being found in suburbs in Townville. It would be reasonably hard to find a true species of Crassipes in the wild . I think its more about the area they are found which puts them into arid or rainforest groups. As said above its tough as some are Arids are found coastly.
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March 13, 2010, 07:52:58 PM »
I dont think so mate , crassipes are a described spp. whereas sarina and eunice are yet to be described (waiting on ravens revision) .
A described spp. would not be renamed to an undescribed spp. name .
who did you hear that off Horizon ? so many things wrong with that reply mate .
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Re: Arid or Not
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March 14, 2010, 09:58:34 AM »
Quote from: Horizon on March 12, 2010, 04:16:32 PM
Hey,
Crassipes have been renamed to Phlogius Sarina or Eunice due to species growing larger and being found in suburbs in Townville.
Hi Nathan,
P.crassipes are still recognised as that species, sp. SARINA is a different species to P.crassipes and sp. EUNICE is a colour form of P.crassipes
Also, P.crassipes aren't found as far north as T'ville
These animals are never black and white, some will live in dry areas and be known for that, yet you will always find some crossing the boundaries. Many Phlogius are found in dry forest regions, but ALWAYS and without question, they are a coastal group. The Selenotypus, Selenotholus, Rattlesnake and JT genera are arid zone spiders, this does not mean they are restricted to the deserts, but are found in dry harsh environements. Some will be found along the coast for sure, but they are predominately arid zone spiders without question. Oblgate and Opportunstic are fine descriptions too.
Hope this helps.
Steve
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March 14, 2010, 11:33:07 AM »
also P. crassipes are found over a great many locations .
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March 14, 2010, 06:03:02 PM »
Hey Steve,
thanks for pionting that out mate
. I could do with a bit more reading i guess, that explains my absence on here for the past 3 years. Ive kept my tarantulas for around 10 - 12 years and only just been breeding the last 3 or 4 years. We'll you do learn something new everyday. Hey Grunto, i believe we may've met tday. My info is probably about 5 yrs old and yeah its pretty wrong sorry. I keep my tarantulas because i love them , not because i know every detail about them.
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March 14, 2010, 06:39:03 PM »
not unless you came to my front door mate
only place I went was to the servo to get some mower fuel (for the wife)
where do you think we met mate ?
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March 14, 2010, 07:49:00 PM »
Hey ,
Na sorry dude.. lines crossed.
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